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kls2000 12-03-2007, 06:24 AM had them fix my remote start... now..... how much sence does with make...... When i start my care using the key fob (with the dorrs locked)... the panic feature activates..... when I start my car with the doors unlocked..... it works nooooooo problem... does anyone else find that CRAAAAAAAZY?...lol...lol
KDmospdRT 12-03-2007, 02:10 PM Not me.. my car came with the remote start and it works great!!!
kls2000 12-03-2007, 02:13 PM i am sure there is noooo problem when the factory puts it in...lol..lol...
AvengerRT 12-10-2007, 02:23 PM I think on saw in another post there was a recall fix for that kls?
kls2000 12-11-2007, 11:26 AM actually i had it looked at.... since it is after market and not the actual factory one it does that... there is something with the electronics in the car... if you start it when locked it sets off the cars alarm... just have to unlock it first... then lock it back up.. Talked to the tech at the dealer... they got a call from another shop having the same problem...
KDmospdRT 12-11-2007, 03:18 PM That issue seems like the one that's on the new recall post here.
AvengerRT 12-11-2007, 03:38 PM That issue seems like the one that's on the new recall post here.
Thats what I was thinking as well..
kls2000 12-12-2007, 06:31 AM yes I saw the bulletin here... I believe they found it as well the first time I took it back....
KDmospdRT 12-12-2007, 10:37 AM Hmm... good luck on that one.
AvengerRT 12-13-2007, 07:44 AM yes I saw the bulletin here... I believe they found it as well the first time I took it back....
Ya know...I wonder if you can just return that whole system and order the factory one like DM got? Though from the sounds of it, the dealer your working with isn't very adept at this sort of thing..
DM6156 12-14-2007, 04:45 AM The dealer i purchased the car from couldn't get it to work and didn't seem to know what they were doing.
The 2nd dealer I went to did get it working in 1 day once the part AND instructions were on hand. I can't fault the dealer for the manufacturer shipping a part with no instructions.
- Dan M
AvengerRT 12-14-2007, 08:37 AM The dealer i purchased the car from couldn't get it to work and didn't seem to know what they were doing.
The 2nd dealer I went to did get it working in 1 day once the part AND instructions were on hand. I can't fault the dealer for the manufacturer shipping a part with no instructions.
- Dan M
Ahh...instructions do help. Did the first dealer comment he didn't have any? For me, I wouldn't be so harsh if I was told they didn't have instructions and I told them to try anyways.
DM6156 12-15-2007, 06:47 PM The first dealer had the car for a week and couldn't get the remote start to work. Yes, they had instructions. They actually blamed the instructions for being wrong and causing the tipem module to blow. I would later find out they were trying to install the wrong part. They were trying to install the remote start for AWD version and not FWD as my car is.
2nd dealer got instructions after the part, they told me the part shipped from the manufacturer to them and came with no instructions. I'm not sure if they got instructions from manufacturer or from chrysler website as it is a factory option so someone at chrysler knows how to wire it.
I was more than willing to wait for the instructions, i can't blame the dealer for parts not coming with instructions. I mean, if i was going to install it myself, I would have received the part with no instructions too.
I've been using it almost daily and love it! Glad I had 2nd dealer try installing it.
you can see my full write up under the dealer forum.
- Dan M
DM6156 12-17-2007, 05:11 AM hey kls200
something just occurred to me about your remote start.
Is it a mopar remote start? If so, the manual says "The vehicle must be locked, the deck lid and hood closed and the tranmission gear selector lever in PARK in order to start the engine using the Remote Start button on the key fob."
Also, having the issues that I had on getting my installed, if yours is a mopar remote start, verify that it is the correct part. One issue I ran into is that one dealer tried to install the remote start for the AWD avenger and not the FWD avenger. There are 2 different parts.
I just tried to lookup the parts for the remote start on the mopar website and it appears they removed it. I guess the folks at chrysler customer service were correct in that dodge was pulling the remote start and not selling it as an accessory!
- Dan M
kls2000 12-17-2007, 06:32 AM yes mine is a mopar accessory... that is an interesting one about a different part number for the AWD vs. the FWD... th front wheel drive... i will have to have them check that. maybe I will call a different dealer.... see what I come up with.. thanks for the info..
DM6156 12-17-2007, 07:28 AM If i remember correctly the part number for the AWD version ends in AB.
Also point out that in the manual it says the doors need to be locked for the remote start to work. That would keep you from having to pay anything more than you already have .. job is incomplete.
You may want to do it soon as the remote start kits are no longer listed on mopar.com and used to be. As I said earlier, the folks at chrysler customer support told me the remote start was being pulled from the accessory list and would be factory only! I told the dealer that installed mine, they looked in the books and was able to order it and get it installed. At the time they were unaware of chrysler pulling it from the accessory list.
your issue may, just may, have something to do with them pulling it as an accessory and going factory only.
You can always call a dealer and ask for a quote (faxed to you) for remote start and installation. They should list the part number. Be sure to tell them it's FWD or AWD depending on which model you have.
- Dan M
fyulaba 01-14-2008, 11:26 AM had them fix my remote start... now..... how much sence does with make...... When i start my care using the key fob (with the dorrs locked)... the panic feature activates..... when I start my car with the doors unlocked..... it works nooooooo problem... does anyone else find that CRAAAAAAAZY?...lol...lol
I would definately have it looked at. The remote start is only supposed to activate when the doors are locked. If the doors are unlocked and you hit the remote start button, the car should beep twice, lock the doors, then start the engine. If your panic button is going off when you hit the remote start button, then I would take it into the dealer and have it looked at really quick.
jwrico 01-16-2008, 07:53 PM My car was doing the same thing after the recall for the door lock strike. turns out the door would not actually lock anymore after the recall and if you tried remote start it wouldn't work. Also if you locked car with remote and grabbed the door handle alarm would go off because door would just go ahead and open. Dealer fixed the original fix and all is happy now.
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dodgewrench1 02-09-2008, 08:47 AM BE CAREFUL!!! I worked in a dealer and when they put in aftermarket remote start they hid a chip key under the column which in effect disables the chip since it always see's a legal key, anyone can now steel the car!!! I warned my dealer of this, not worth a lawsuit just install the factory system which intergrates into the "S.K.I.M." module and allows a remote start without a chip present
Quiet Lunatic 02-09-2008, 09:29 AM BE CAREFUL!!! I worked in a dealer and when they put in aftermarket remote start they hid a chip key under the column which in effect disables the chip since it always see's a legal key, anyone can now steel the car!!! I warned my dealer of this, not worth a lawsuit just install the factory system which intergrates into the "S.K.I.M." module and allows a remote start without a chip present
I wondered how the aftermarket remote starts got around the security features.
That is great info.
kls2000 02-09-2008, 10:52 AM i have heard that is what places do... put a key under the dash
dodgewrench1 02-09-2008, 12:13 PM let your insurance company find out and see if they cover theft. It is very immoral, should be illegal to disable factory theft devices like it is to mess with saftey devices.
ghostznightmarez 02-10-2008, 09:29 AM there probably gonna have to put another diode in the wirering somwhere, cuz i have an aftermarket car alarm and car starter, everything in the dodge cars are based on resistance values, so if you dont have a wire dioded then you could have problems with backfeeding, they use the same wire to do two different things.
dodgewrench1 02-10-2008, 11:12 AM Nope the immobilzer module is looking for a freq code from the key, no code-- no start
dodgewrench1 02-10-2008, 11:14 AM maybe a more acurate way to say it is. it is a digital address the module MUST see.
ghostznightmarez 02-10-2008, 09:53 PM yea but all you gotta do is use a universal mod. that you put an extra key in, and that will send the single from the key to yoru ignition. but i know for all the door locks you need resistors and diodes
AvengerRT 02-11-2008, 11:02 AM Well actually, there isn't a "signal" that is sent. There is a chip implanted in the key that has to be within a certain range to allow the car to start. The keys are coded are paired to the receivers and as such won't allow the car to start unless you have the correct key. IIRC, there is also a coil of wire, or an antenna if you will, at or near the ignition that picks up this information. I think its built into the skreem module (if they are still using the skreem on these cars lol).
Or something to that effect. We test and build skreem modules here, but work on other projects, so not sure how these new ones really work. But its the same type of concept that they have been doing for years in all different kinds of cars.
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